The perimeter has shifted
The perimeter isn’t where you left it. Agents are on the move, APIs are on fire, and your infrastructure is about as ready for this as a fax machine is for a DDoS. In this week's episode, Lori, Joel and F5 Field CISO, Chuck Herrin, are talking guardrails—real ones—for the age of agentic AI.
Because while your dashboards were busy sipping metrics, the vendors got serious. Recent product launches show a clear pivot toward AI-specific defenses and infrastructure support like: an AI firewall, AI runtime protection, semantic observability, and AI policy and rule generation.
Turns out, stateless APIs weren’t built for recursive agents with infinite retries and zero chill. If your architecture still thinks AI means ‘autocomplete,’ you’re going to want to tune in for actionable steps to stay ahead in an AI-dominated future. It’s not just about security. It’s survival. Let’s go.
Creators and Guests

Host
Joel Moses
Distinguished Engineer and VP, Strategic Engineer at F5, Joel has over 30 years of industry experience in cybersecurity and networking fields. He holds several US patents related to encryption technique.

Host
Lori MacVittie
Distinguished Engineer and Chief Evangelist at F5, Lori has more than 25 years of industry experience spanning application development, IT architecture, and network and systems' operation. She co-authored the CADD profile for ANSI NCITS 320-1998 and is a prolific author with books spanning security, cloud, and enterprise architecture.

Guest
Chuck Herrin
Field CISO for Web App and API Security at F5. Chuck's purview includes customer advocacy and active engagement across Product, Marketing, Sales, and Channel operations to bring thought leadership and alignment of solutions with the real-world problems enterprise customers face every day. Prior to F5, Chuck was the CTO of Wib, an API security firm that created the second generation of API security solutions designed from the ground up to provide end to end visibility, testing, and context to discover, test, and secure all APIs across a customer ecosystem. Prior to Wib, Chuck spent 19 years as a CISO in financial services and banking, including SVP and Head of IT Security, Risk, and Compliance for all of AIG’s consumer-facing divisions ($29B annual revenue) and EVP and CISO of Texas Capital Bank prior to being named “Most Trusted Bank in America” by Newsweek in 2022. A lifelong learner, Chuck holds a litany of industry certifications gathered over the last 25 years, as well as a bachelor’s degree in biology from Lenoir Rhyne University.
